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« on: November 10, 2011, 08:34:02 pm »

Will DashCommand(For Iphone) be updated with the ability to use the new bluetooth OBDII module?


I think this will solve my project issue we discussed.

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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 08:52:05 am »

We haven't seen this yet. There is a good chance we will try to add support, but we don't have any official plans at this point.

Have you used it? How well does it work?
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« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2011, 08:31:34 am »

I talked to a person in your booth at SEMA and was told it was compatible.  I just purchased the GoPoint BT1 and it doesn't work with Dash Command.  When will it be supported or have I wasted my money on Dash Command?

Your December 1st update says thatv2.9.1 will allow you to select a Blue Tooth input device.  How do you do that and will it work for the GoPoint BT1 & IPhone/iPad?

 They are now for sale at Radio Shack & Walmart (GoPoint BT1 for the iPhone, iPad & iPod)
We haven't seen this yet. There is a good chance we will try to add support, but we don't have any official plans at this point.

Have you used it? How well does it work?
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« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2011, 11:44:27 am »

That 2.9.1 update was for Android, it doesn't apply to iOS.

We are ready and eager to support the BT1, and we are currently talking to GoPoint about it. I would expect it in the next release.
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« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2012, 05:42:36 pm »

Any update on this? Foolish me. Had the GL1 and bought the BT1 to get rid of the cable dangling by my legs and simplify moving between vehicles. Just assumed Dash Command would work with the BT1. Heck, GoPoint's own mpgLink app doesn't even work with the BT1. Suggest the rest of you wait on a BT1 purchase for now until there are useful apps that work with it...

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« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2012, 06:02:12 pm »

We'll be supporting this in our next release. I don't have a specific date, but I am hopeful it will be this month.
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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2012, 09:17:51 pm »

This makes me very very happy! Grin
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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 12:22:01 pm »

I need to get in contact with you guys about this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCMjhwdUJ2I

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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2012, 03:48:08 pm »

Just to let you know, I am also interested in Dashcommand when it supports the GoPoint BT module. I have been using this module along with a jailbroken app that allows for multiple BT connections and data streams simultaneously. Apple and there IOS doesn't do the best job of this.

Looking forward to the next release and support for it. Any Idea on when?  Has this been solidified with GoPoint and is definitely a done deal?

Thanks

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« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2012, 04:05:47 pm »

Support is a done deal. It's been added to our app. We are just waiting for Apple to approve our release, which should be any day now.
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 08:12:52 pm »

Wow! Great job! DashCommand on iPhone 4s works easily and seamlessly with BT1 module. Did not have to configure or change anything - even auto-connected on startup. Very nice. (Assuming you already had the GoPoint BT1 app already talking to the BT1 module.)

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(GoPoint's own mpgLink STILL doesn't work wth BT1 and they aren't approving any posts in their forum since November so my complaints never showed up.)

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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2012, 11:24:16 am »

plfinch,
What car did you test it with?
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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2012, 11:46:12 am »

I tested out the BT1 with DashCommand on my Ipad. It worked well! I suggest using a really awesome dash skin like the Demon 8 Designs Driver Interface! Grin Grin Grin
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« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2012, 01:37:46 pm »

Sashik259:

2000 Dodge Dakota
2005 Jeep Wrangler
2005 Honda Odyssey

I had previously used DashCommand and the GoPoint GL1 cable with all 3 vehicles so all were already configured in DashCommand on my iPhone. Not sure why but I did have to "Validate PIDs" once with the BT1 for each vehicle to get some of the values to display that were previously working with the GL1 cable.

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2012, 01:41:38 pm »

One other note... If you are using the BT1 and want to pull fault codes with DashCommand without starting the engine (or if you are unable to start the engine), turn the ignition on before connecting the BT1, same procedure as with the GL1 cable.

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« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2012, 01:49:35 pm »

One thing I noticed today is that I'm not getting a reading in the Volts gauge using the BT1. Everything else seems to function. My car is a 2008 Pontiac G8 GT.
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« Reply #16 on: February 06, 2012, 08:03:03 pm »

Voltage is read from the interface, it's independent of the vehicle. As far as I know only ELM interfaces support voltage. If that's true, no GoPoint interface will give you volts.
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2012, 04:57:48 pm »

Shame on them then!  Embarrassed  No biggie, I have a can bus volt gauge anyhow.
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2012, 10:51:36 am »

I'm still having a problem with getting this to work with my BT1. I keep getting these errors in my log:

[12:42:05.105] Found GoPoint iPhone accessory interface!
[12:42:06.231] OBD-II Error: Error detecting OBD-II protocol.

Is there anything I need to reset? I have the port set to auto and I can connect with GoPoint's BT1 app.

Please help, thanks.
Jon

Wow! Great job! DashCommand on iPhone 4s works easily and seamlessly with BT1 module. Did not have to configure or change anything - even auto-connected on startup. Very nice. (Assuming you already had the GoPoint BT1 app already talking to the BT1 module.)

applause applause

(GoPoint's own mpgLink STILL doesn't work wth BT1 and they aren't approving any posts in their forum since November so my complaints never showed up.)

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« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2012, 02:34:06 pm »

Is your OBD-II Input Type, in the DashCommand Settings, set to GoPoint Technology? If it is, please send a techlog to our support team.
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« Reply #20 on: February 20, 2012, 06:17:00 pm »

It is. I own a 2008 Honda Fit if that helps. I'll send along the log (which I cut and pasted from above and doesn't say much). I really hope this can be fixed, because I'd hate to be out $50 for nothing. Thanks for getting back to me so fast. I appreciate it.
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« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2012, 08:05:26 pm »

JLand, Please be sure to follow the steps outlined here: http://www.palmerperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=4665.0

The debug mode has extra logging which is only available to our support techs. It won't show up in the console.
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2012, 06:10:21 am »

Done at 6:51 am EST. About how long does it take your support dept to check these things out?

Thanks,
Jon

JLand, Please be sure to follow the steps outlined here: http://www.palmerperformance.com/forum/index.php?topic=4665.0

The debug mode has extra logging which is only available to our support techs. It won't show up in the console.
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2012, 08:18:13 am »

Usually they will get back within a business day. But if the tech log is very large then it could take longer.

For trouble connecting the logfiles are typically pretty short.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2012, 09:10:43 am »

Thanks. I really appreciate you taking the time you're taking to help me with this. Frankly, you're the only company giving any support for the GoPoint BT1. GoPoint and FuzzyLuke are like ghost towns.
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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2012, 09:35:22 am »

I've looked through your tech log, it looks like DashCommand finds what protocol your vehicle is on, but fails to get a response from the car. The biggest help I could think of you trying, is to increase the OBD-II Timeout in the Vehicle Manager. Start it at 500 and let us know how it goes.
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2012, 10:31:23 am »

I just did this and it didn't work. I then upped it to 1000 and still no dice. I sent a new tech log for the 1000 attempt.
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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2012, 09:17:43 am »

Any news on this?
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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2012, 06:20:01 pm »

Jland, I asked our support team about this. It looks like we're going to need to run a couple of tests to see whether we can reproduce the problem here in our lab. I'll get back to you early next week.
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« Reply #29 on: February 24, 2012, 08:26:50 pm »

Thanks. Have a nice weekend!
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« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2012, 01:39:02 pm »

I just purchased the dash command for my iphone and no luck here either.  I have the BT1 and can get it to connect to my iphone but when I try and launch the dash command I get error detecting OBD protocol.  I have a 2006 honda civic si no mods.  Help.
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« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2012, 06:06:27 pm »

Please send a techlog to our support team. We are looking into this issue currently.
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« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2012, 10:07:42 am »

We're having trouble reproducing any problems with the BT1 in our labs.

Do jland or 2hottynva have any other information that might help us to identify the problem? What phone are you using? Is it a 4S?
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« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2012, 11:44:51 am »

Yeah, it's a 4s running ios 5.0.1. I've also tried my iPad 2. If it helps, my car is a 2008 Honda Fit Sport, automatic transmission.
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« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2012, 03:52:40 pm »

I have a 2006 honda civic si totally stock.  iphone 4s with same ios5.  Sounds like a go point issue hu?
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« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2012, 03:55:32 pm »

At the moment, we believe it's a combination of the Go Point BT together with Honda vehicles. We're looking for an appropriate vehicle to test with.
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« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2012, 07:45:41 pm »

do we know if the GL1 will work or what I need to purchase to have the same features that this promised.  Does prop performance haave a iphone 4s bluetooth connection that actually does what the go point claims?
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« Reply #37 on: February 27, 2012, 09:35:59 pm »

The GoPoint is the only iPhone bluetooth that we support at this time. We should have this figured out within a few days, and then we will be able to put out a fix for it.

If you cannot wait for the fix, then you would probably need one of the wifi interfaces.

Please note that we'd possible need up to a few weeks after discovering the problem, to issue an update (Apple's approval process can take several weeks).
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« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2012, 03:02:16 pm »

I've been testing this issue today, and it appears that it's isolated to GoPoint interfaces. We were unable to connect using the BT1, from what looked like the BT1 queuing up a lot of RPM requests with the vehicle. The GL1 refused to connect at all, and wouldn't even charge the iPhone (it works fine with other vehicles).

I also tested with an OBDLink WiFi, which didn't experience any issues. We'll talk to GoPoint about this and hopefully have a fix soon.

EDIT: Further testing revealed that the GL1 DID charge the phone, and connected without issue. This is solely a BT1 problem.
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« Reply #39 on: February 29, 2012, 09:54:25 am »

Thanks for the update! I really appreciate you guys being on this.
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« Reply #40 on: February 29, 2012, 06:40:37 pm »

Any news on the Bt1 and dash command for the honda problem?
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« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2012, 09:46:33 am »

No word yet, we emailed GoPoint yesterday morning but I don't believe they have replied yet. We'll keep you guys posted.
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« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2012, 02:36:36 pm »

Still waiting on go point BT1 to work with my civic.  Is this a honda problem?  Go Point Problem?  PPE Problem?  Works fine with my 2006 GMC Envoy Denali, although I don't understand why everytime I leave the app I have to go back in to the main menu and hit connection?  I know this was a couple problems but the Honda problem is what I would really like some kind of answer to.  Thanks. 
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« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2012, 07:36:28 am »

This looks like a problem with the GoPoint BT. They appear to have trouble connecting to Hondas. Unfortunately our support process takes a lot longer going through these hardware companies. It's something that we don't really have control over because we cannot control how quickly they respond to our emails/phone calls or other communication.

When you leave the app, we cannot maintain the connection. If we don't continually ping the hardware interface then it will close the connection. You can use the "Auto-Connect" setting, which will try to always connect the vehicle when you enter the app. But you will still be disconnected when you leave the app.
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« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2012, 08:40:34 am »

So do you think at some point (hopefully relatively soon) PPE and GoPoint will be able to diagnose and correct the issue? I'm fine with waiting as long as I know there's a light at the end of the tunnel.
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« Reply #45 on: March 08, 2012, 12:03:57 pm »

I'm sure there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm just not sure how long is the tunnel?

I just gave GoPoint another call today. Waiting for them to call me back so I can give you an update on this.
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« Reply #46 on: March 14, 2012, 08:13:57 am »

Any news?
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« Reply #47 on: March 14, 2012, 12:14:17 pm »

Just received this from GoPoint about the BT on Honda:

It's a bug that we are fixing. Anyone with an issue should contact
support@gopointtech.zendesk.com for a replacement.

A firmware reflash will be available shortly for programming in the field.
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« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2012, 04:03:12 pm »

Thanks. I just wrote to them. Do you know if the BT firmware can be fixed from an app, or will the unit need to be replaced? This is starting to get really frustrating.
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« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2012, 06:45:36 pm »

I'm not exactly sure what they are planning, but a firmware reflash would mean you can keep your hardware and update it, possibly from an app or a laptop.
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« Reply #50 on: March 20, 2012, 10:22:39 am »

Question: If you guys hear any more about this issue from GoPoint, would you mind posting it here? I've been in contact with them, but their customer service is lacking a bit, where you guys are on it.
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« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2012, 10:33:44 am »

Yes. Sure thing. I would also appreciate an update from you or anybody else on the forum, if you hear back first.
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« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2012, 11:47:09 am »

It's a deal!
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« Reply #53 on: March 20, 2012, 03:07:10 pm »

>>GoPoint contacted today and inform about new BT1 and GoPoint app releases soon to fix the problem with honda vehicles.<<
complete answer are those one:
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"mpgLINK is at Apple for approval. It will up date the firmware on the BT1 and the GL1 products.
Best regards,
Tod Hamilton
GoPoint Technology Support Team"
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We released version 1.2 of the mpgLINK software to the App Store. This version will update you BT1 to B1.0.2 and solve the Honda issue. We are hoping to have the App approved by the end of the week. We will update the announcements on the support board when it is released by Apple.
Best regards,
Brennan Hamilton
GoPoint Technology Support Team
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Dashcommand has already been updated to work correctly with the BT1.
Best regards,
Brennan Hamilton
GoPoint Technology Support Team
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Could you confirm the last quote? Thx!
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« Reply #54 on: March 22, 2012, 08:20:36 pm »

Great! Thanks for updating us.
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« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2012, 08:13:40 am »

Cool! That's more than I got out of them.
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« Reply #56 on: March 28, 2012, 09:15:46 am »

Haven't tried it yet but:

Jland,
GoPoint has released a new version of mpgLINK (version 1.2). This App checks the firmware version of both GL1 and BT1 products and will re-flash them to the latest firmware level. It also provides average fuel economy data for vehicles that have a mass air flow sensor.
Best regards,

Tod Hamilton
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« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2012, 09:51:57 am »

Worked like a charm!
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« Reply #58 on: March 28, 2012, 10:06:50 am »

Great! Thank you for updating us. Glad that it finally works for you.

By the way, Wolfpack. This change did not require any updates to DashCommand.
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« Reply #59 on: March 29, 2012, 07:14:48 pm »

Im getting the same problem with the GoPoint BT1 :/ (OBD-2 interface not found) I installed the firmware flash indicated above and still no success. Would appreciate any kind of help as to how people got sync this with DashCmd. I have a Pontiac Solstice 2006. All the other programs can read the car fine but yours seems to be giving me a problem
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« Reply #60 on: March 30, 2012, 10:58:20 am »

DKall, is your phone paired with the device before you start DashCommand?

In the DashCommand settings, you also need to set the OBD-II interface type to "GoPoint".
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« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2012, 06:02:13 pm »

I'm using an iPad and yes the device is synched with the iPad
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« Reply #62 on: March 31, 2012, 12:47:36 am »

In that case, if you have correctly set the DashCommand OBD-II type setting, please send a techlog to our support email. That has some information we can use to figure this out. Please follow the directions as stickied in the forum.
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« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2012, 08:16:40 am »

Hi guys. You make a real progress. I have changed my ot-2 adapter (see topic audi a6c5+ot2+iphone4s+dashcomand=no sensors) to gopoint bt-1 and got the only sensor: engine speed sensor - it's great! Especially when my dashboard works fine. For $50 (soft) and $200 (bt1) I've got the second engine speed sensor! Why so? Why gopoint's soft (such as gopoint, mpglink, bt1) works fine with it's bt1? Why logworks' soft works fine with its ot2? What should I do to make your soft show some gauges?
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« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2012, 08:50:16 am »

Hi Sashik, I remember your posts. We are still trying to get Innovate to work with us on your Audi issue. But so far they tell us that they don't have time.

Since you have purchased a BT-1, have you revalidated your PIDs in the vehicle manager? Since you have a new interface this will be important to do.

If you have already validated the PIDs, please send us a techlog with your new interface. The BT-1 should work with your vehicle.
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« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2012, 12:49:29 pm »

I have already revalidated PIDs. The techlog has been sent.
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« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2012, 01:24:06 am »

Hi. I changed OBD-II timeout to 1000ms and now I can see engine speed, vehicle speed, throttle position and coolant temperature. Is it all? Is there any possibility to get some info about timing, MAF, fuel consumption?
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